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    Marsh Arab dagger, need opinions

    hello,

    is the length of the blade normal for marsh arab daggers?



    would appreciate any help

    thanks,

    A.alnakkas

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    Hello,

    Looks normal to me. Too bad it's missing the scabbard. Try etching the blade, sometime these were of crucible steel (wootz).

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    hi

    i thought its not normal because most of the marsh arab dagger's i've seen are alittle shorter then this one, will take a measurement soon and post it.

    will clean the blade whenever i can.

    A.Alnakkas

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    Hello,

    I don't think slight variation in size is that abnornal. Even if it is a bit longer than average, it's still not much different from average khanjar size.
    I don't think you need to worry about the size of the blade. Just clean it and check its quality.

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    hi,

    is there a way to identify wootz without looking at the pattern?

    i've cleaned all the red rust from the blade but underneath its filled with black rust/scratches (from sharpening i think) i still havent tried to remove the black rust as am not experienced with it.

    the blade is excellent though, it feels light for its thick appearance and is nice to handle, the metal feels alot more higher quality then most of dagger/swords ive handled (never touched a wootz blade, shamefully) so if there is a feel to wootz, maybe weight or balance then can you please tell me how to identify it?

    thank you, Emanuel


    A.alnakkas

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    Hello,

    I'm afraid not. You can't get any indication of metal type from just holding the dagger. The feel of the metal is irrelevant as it depends on its treatment, rust, dirt, etc... You can polish any metal to mirror finish, or you can make it feel like sandpaper. You can do a hardness test to check the metal's harness but that won't tell you much.

    Most likely, since this is an early-20th century piece, the blade is plain industrial steel. You need to etch the blade to check for a pattern. If you have a clear area, try a light etch with lime juice or other weak acid that won't damage the surface. If you get a clearly visible pattern (not staining from the juice), then you might consider polishing the blade and etching with ferric chloride or more powerful acids; I'm sure there are some threads on this forum about etching blades.

    Regardless of wootz or not, it's still a very nice dagger.

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    hey,

    i have polished the dagger but there is some rust left and damage, but thought i'd share the pictures.





    enjoy and sorry about the low quality shots


    A.alnakkas

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    Turned out nicely!
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