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    Sparring practice Jian

    Hi everybody, I'm looking for a practice Jian (metal, not wooden), to be used for light sparring(what is sometime called "battle ready").
    Do you know of any such entry level (= not too expensive!) sword?
    I've searched around but didn't find anything apart from wooden ones...

    Thanks!

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    'Battle ready' when used by makers of cheap Chinese swords usually means razor sharp and definitely not something I would use for sparing unless I was wearing full plate armour
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    'Battle Ready' as used for HEMA sword, definitely not looking for a sharp one!
    Just solid enough to withstand some blows without breaking or bending irrimediably...

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    Get a broadsword blade from Darkwood:
    http://www.darkwoodarmory.com/index....products_id=76
    add a guard that isn't too big, and a light pommel. For balance, aim to put the forward pivot point near the tip, and you have a reasonable sparring jian.

    Maybe the A&A jian would be OK (but more expensive, so doesn't meet your entry level requirement): http://arms-n-armor.com/train222.html
    "In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.

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    Hadn't thought about using a broadsword blade, great idea! Yeah, the A&A is a bit expensive for me...

    Has anyone had any experience with these Hanwei?
    - http://www.samurai-swords-for-sale.c...productid=1372
    - http://www.oriental-weaponry.co.uk/a...prettyphoto/0/

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    I like the Hsu jian. Alas, now discontinued. The edges aren't sharp, but they're quite thin, about 1mm or a bit less for most of the blade, and under 1mm near the tip. Also, the tip is sharp. To be safe for sparring, you'd need to round the tip. I think that even with a rounded tip, the edge is too thin for safety. With the hollow ground, you'd have to take off quite a lot of the edge to make it thick enough for safety.

    I haven't ever played with the Practical, but I believe it has even thinner edges.

    Both are designed for forms, not sparring.

    Better to start with a blade designed for sparring. If I knew of a cheap steel sparring jian, I'd recommend it. But none that I know of. Thus, Darkwood looks good, and their grips look OK. But perhaps other blades would work. E.g., http://www.kultofathena.com/product....+Blade+-+Blunt if you can DIY grips/pommels/guards; DIY because the whole sword isn't very jian-like as far as the hilt goes: http://www.kultofathena.com/product....gle+Hand+Sword
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    Actually, the Armour Class Saxon might work as a jian, out of the box:
    http://www.kultofathena.com/product....+Sword+-+Blunt

    A little heavy, maybe. Perhaps the narrower blade is OK:
    http://www.armourclass.co.uk/Data/Pa...rkAge_Main.htm
    You could ask them.
    Last edited by Timo Nieminen; 09-22-2015 at 03:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea G View Post
    Hi everybody, I'm looking for a practice Jian (metal, not wooden), to be used for light sparring
    Thanks!
    If you really want to train, why not wood (hickory). You might get bruises but that's all. I practice with a wooden jian from tigers den (http://www.tigersden.co.uk/index.html)
    I would never spar with a metal sword.

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    "In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.

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    Try getting a wooden jian, might be easier and cheaper
    for a sparring piece.

    Something in the entry level for metal jian the build might not be robust enough to withstand the vigorous abuse of sparring.

    Though with enough fustration I am trying to make a wood composite jian.
    The thing with wood is they are too light for the given dimensions.
    That is wood despite the metalic outlook
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