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    Virginia Saber?

    I just bought a M1860 Ames cavalry saber dated 1860. I believe it may be one of the 1200 sabers Pres. Buchanan's Secretary of War, John Floyd, directed be sent to Virginia in early 1860. Most 1860-dated Ames cavalry sabers have the normal inspection markings, i.e. "U.S./ (inspector's initials)/1860", but this one has just the date. John Thillmann, in his book Civil War Cavalry and Artillery Sabers, suggest these sword with no inspector's marks were early shipments made before Ames received the memo from Chief of Ordnance Craig instructing them to inspect the Virginia swords in the same manner as usual, and that Virginia would pick up the cost for the inspections. As I understand it these Virginia Ames sabers were used to equip JEB Stuart's Ist Virginia Volunteer Cavalry Regiment.

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    One question: There appears to be a dot stamped at the end of the date. I seem to recall reading somewhere that this had some significance, but I cannot recall what it is. Do any of you Forum members know?

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    While searching the net for comparables to my Ames 1860 cavalry saber, I ran across this interesting Ames M1840 Type 1 artillery saber dated 1860. Like my cavalry saber, it also lacks any inspectors marks and is marked with only the date followed with a dot, i.e. “1860 .“ on the obverse ricasso with no marks on the pommel, knuckle bow or drag.

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    Did Ames, in addition to the 1200 cavalry sabers, also sell Artillery sabers to Virginia? If not, what is the story on this uninspected saber? Was it perhaps sold to some other state or militia element? Or was it possible for it to have somehow made it through the system without having been stamped?

    Anyone have any thoughts?

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    I think your Artillery saber is, as you suspect, sold to a state militia. I just acquired a Type 2 Artillery Saber like this that is un-inspected and property marked to the Conn. Militia. I am making up a post for it now.

    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...78#post1229478
    Last edited by George Wheeler; 11-19-2017 at 02:45 PM.
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