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  1. #826
    That is Super Nice! I really like substantial blades on smallswords. The hilt looks great too. Very nice grip!
    Peace, Love, SWORDS!

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    Nice, David.

    Again--small-swords for all!
    Tom Donoho

  3. #828
    Good God! I have to fight the urge to get me another of those dandy smallswords......Fight it, Fight it!
    Peace, Love, SWORDS!

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    Promise long time ago...

    2 years ago I promised to post some more pics of my Kommendersvärja Commanders sword. Here comes the link!http://www.hoeglund.org/vapen/vaerjo...ersvaerja.html
    I hope you enjoy the picture as much as I enjoy having it on the wall.
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    New sword

    Here are photos of new French sword c. 1800. It is the early boat form guard (later ones are asymmetrical, sometimes with the outboard shell turned down a bit). It has a single-edged blade with a long back edge to it. I would classify it as a small-sword. It's balance is truly wonderful--a surprise to me--as is it's play. I am quite happy with it--acquired at a bargain. I need to re-lay the fine silver wire wrap to the grip--shouldn't be too hard as I have done it before. All tight and never dismounted from the look of the peening--has cloth blade seat too.
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    Newbir here trying to identify a smallsword.....

    I obtained this sword, and I cannot find any info on it, other than it is apparently called a "smallsword". The blade measures 28" in length, and the handle appears to be solid silver. I have tried to show the hallmarks as best as possible, but they are very hard to make out. I have looked at many hallmark identification sites, but have been unable to identify the maker. I am also curious as to the value of a sword of this type. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/0/1...68335337_o.jpg
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    Welcome to the board, I'm glad you found your way here and posted this up.

    We don't do appraisals here but someone reading may be able to connect the dots of the hallmarks.

    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95129

    It is a really nice piece in its simplicity

    Cordially

    Glen

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    Nice SS, c. 1740-50 (maybe earlier) given the hilt's profile and blade with brass inlay. As was said, a nice SS in its simplicity--beauty derived from line of form rather than embellishment.

    Enjoy!
    Tom Donoho

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Williams View Post
    I obtained this sword,
    Your sword would be easily datable, if you could determine the origin of the hallmarks. The hallmarks on your photos are not English. Try posting the hallmarks on the antique silver collectors forum. You can find one through Google.
    That being said, stylistically I would date the hilt of this sword ca.1710-1730.

  10. #835
    To me the most beautiful smallswords are from the first half of the 18th century. As others have said, its simple yet classic form, where funtionality is still the pre-dominant feature is my very favorite. It still has 17th century aspects. Awesome!
    Peace, Love, SWORDS!

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    sword id....

    Thanks all for your help! I have posted the pics of the hallmarks to a couple sites. No one seems to be able to identify them, possibly because they are so early. Everyone I have talked to though agrees the sword dates from 1710-1750. So at least I know that much now! I had no idea it was that old. I had someone contact me by e-mail today and offer me $300.00 for it, sight unseen. I'm thinking I'd better find out a little more about it before I do anything hasty......

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    I like small-swords of all periods--they have something to offer that is interesting and beautiful--functionally and artistically speaking.

    We don't appraise here. But you have a very nice one there! Enough said?
    Tom Donoho

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    sword..

    Sure. Just accepted the offer. I guess the guy is getting a good deal. Thanks again!

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    Kirk,
    Did you get my Private Message regarding ways to go about determining value?

    Jonathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by K Williams View Post
    Sure. Just accepted the offer. I guess the guy is getting a good deal. Thanks again!
    Not a valuation, but most of the true silverhilts I've seen have sold for around 2000 uk pounds

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    Smallsword of the Imperial Guarde of Napoleon III

    I got my hands on this nice smallsword fron Napoleon III Imperial Guard. This one has a very substantial blade!!!
    Unfortunately I really suck on french history. Therefor I would be very happy if someone could help me out with some interesting parts of the history connected to this smallsword. Any idea of which of the regiments it could have belonged to?

    I hope this will be the specialty of some of our friends here, so that I cen get a bit more educated in this area.

    Bets regards,
    Bjarne
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    French Smallsword Intensive training in New York City

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    Het guys, I have an Italian silver-hilted smallsword that I found at auction. The description says its Neopolitan. It has hallmarks on the handle, most notably an eagle's head. It has an interesting design, check it out:





    David, at which auction did you find the Boulton sword? It is beautiful.

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    Very nice silver hilt!
    Tom Donoho

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    Hi,
    I am am getting more and more interested in smallswords and I was wondering if you can tell me what would distinguish dueling smallsword from court, military and other smallswords?
    Thanks,
    David

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    I have been eying smallswords for a long time and the finely chiseled silver hilts are always a treat to see.

    I guess my recently adopted oddity should have some images of it here as well. I had posted it in a stand alone thread but someone may spot it here and have a thought that rings a bell. I have to guess that it is a military dress sword and likely French, while assuming it (by me) to be pre first empire but who knows?

    Cheers

    Hotspur; not one of the widebody bladed military types but a feather weight
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    duelling small swords?

    Quote Originally Posted by David M. W. View Post
    Hi,
    I am am getting more and more interested in smallswords and I was wondering if you can tell me what would distinguish dueling smallsword from court, military and other smallswords?
    Thanks,
    David
    David, I don't have any academic basis to answer your question, but I too have an interest in small swords which were purpose-made for duelling. A while back I started a lengthy debate on this forum about pointy versus edgy small swords, and I do NOT want that to start again. It is my belief that duelling small swords would have been point-only swords. I have several swords in my collection which appear to have been made for duelling as they lack knuckle bows and the ornamentation so characteristic to the small sword type, and they have excellent balance. They are also some of the longer blades I have found, at 35.5 inches on the single sword and 35.75 inches on the pair. Bjarne has a pair of swords very similar to the pair in my picture.

    Rocky
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    R.E.,
    Thanks for your reply. Your swords are very nice. Is seams to be difficult to find those dueling swords this days. It is quite surprising considering how popular was dueling in 18th, 19th and also at the beginning of 20th century.
    Regards,
    David

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    The small-sword was a busy little sword. It could be a sword for court wear (with embellishment yet servicable, too--or highly embellished and decadent, just a piece of jewelry) or a sword for business (very simple embellishement if any with stronger hilt elements and blades to match.) Swords worn for everyday wear were serviceable and suitable for duels. And "duelers" (those with just a shell guard and a special grip) were made as well. You are probably concerned with the latter swords.
    Tom Donoho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Massaro View Post

    David, at which auction did you find the Boulton sword? It is beautiful.
    Little local auction house in Battle near Hastings Carl.

    http://www.burstowandhewett.co.uk/

    David

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