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    The Scots Baskethilt...

    Here's the first pic of the Scots baskethilt...
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    Number 8 of 8

    ANY/ALL info, feedback, ideas, etc. - on either of these swords - would be much appreciated chaps...

    MY idea so far is that both swords are genuine (as far as I can tell) - I think both sword blades are looking pretty much original to their hilts and both swords seem to be overall in reasonably good condition for their respective ages...

    Beyond that - well - this is new (and exciting!) territory for me - I look forward to your comments gents...

    John.
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    Grand photo's, especially the Mortuary..oh, ah!

    The price's you quoted seem to be in the ball park range for piece's such as these.

    I'd be quite chuffed as well, given the chance & expendable funds to acquire such piece's.

    Best of luck with the deal and congrats to boot!

    Waiting to hear more about them.

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    Bill

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    Very nice, John!

    I am not handler experienced in these types of swords, but they do look genuine based on what reading I have done.

    Good luck!
    Tom Donoho

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    Thanks for that Tom/Bill,

    NOW - got some MORE pics from the dealer - lets pop these up and see what you chaps think - if these shots cast any further light on things - one shot shows that there is missing leather from the grip of the Scots broadsword (which I think is probably inevitable after 300 years or so) and another shot shows a break in one of the downwards facing bars (not sure if I would call these two 'loops' pas d'ane or quillions or what really?)

    Anyway - getting CLOSER to doing the deal chaps - so any more feedback from you baskethilt experts out there would be GREATLY appreciated!

    Thanks in advance,

    John.

    PS Here's the FIRST PIC showing the pommel/peened over tang of the mortuary hilter...
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    Mortuary hilter again - the grip...
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    Onto the Scots Baskethilt now...

    Okay - here' s the outside of the basket...
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    Peened over tang and pommel of Scots broadsword...
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    missing section of grip covering...
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    Break in downwards facing bar of hilt...
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    Underside of basket...

    (This is the last shot for the moment...)

    So - guys - should I be asking for shots of anything else? What do we think of what can be seen in these shots? Any/all feedback gratefully accepted (before I open my wallet )

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    Okay - I lied

    ONE more shot of the mortuary hilter...
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    Love ALL the Mortuary shots John! Keep them coming!

    Thr shark skin grip on the Mort. seems to be in fine shape indeed and the the chiselled motifs of the bowl also seem to be in fine order of such a piece.

    With your permission, I'd like to snitch these photos and add them in to my Mortaury photo data.

    The Scot basket & guard seem to be in decent shape other than the defects you've presented. You may wish to negotiate a bit of a price break for these. Are you palnning on trying to re-furbish the Scot grip and /or get the break in the guard repaired or just leave it as is.

    Great stuff & thanks for sharing.

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    Bill

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    John,
    Thank you for posting the pictures! I especially like the mortuary sword. I have never had the opportunity to handle one. I have only been able to gaze upon them in glass cases at museums with lust in my eyes!

    Jonathan

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    Thanks for that Jonathan and Bill!

    UNFORTUNATELY the one thing I was *hoping* would happen *hasn't* yet - I was hoping that a dozen baskethilt experts would be attracted to this thread and type many words of wisdom for me about the relative quality/value/merit of these swords I'm about to purchase and so on - oh well...:-(

    I'm a bit out of my depth here - yes I have about 25 years of experience with British and other sword collecting - but most of that time with military swords - several years on jap swords and several years on Third Reich daggers - now I'm trying to 'learn on the run' about these baskethilts which I've *always* been curious about but never before ventured into...

    I am fairly confident that both swords are genuine and of *reasonable* quality - but I wouldn't think either of them would have been carried by an officer or high-ranking chap (although I might be wrong there - the blade on the mortuary hilt is obviously of a good quality and so is the blade on the Scots baskethilt...)

    What are your thoughts chaps? How do these two pieces compare to others/the ones you've seen out there?

    John.

    PS Its nearly 4am and I'm hitting the beer (my own homebrew of course - just goes to show what havoc permanent night shift wreaks on us! (My day is your night and so on...

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