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    Different patterns of Indonasian keris

    As we know there are different patterns on Indonasian keris. How many different patterns exist on INdonasian keris?

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    Good information link

    A well done pamor information page:

    http://old.blades.free.fr/keris/intr...ilah/pamor.htm

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    Hi Manouchehr
    here I enclose an example of different pamor. Of course there are a lot and many times we can find 2 or 3 different pamor in a single blade so they call dwivarno or trivarno.
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    Welcome Dr. Forgiarini. Very nice blades. Are from your personal collection ?
    Please forgive my english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandro Forgiarini View Post
    Hi Manouchehr
    here I enclose an example of different pamor. Of course there are a lot and many times we can find 2 or 3 different pamor in a single blade so they call dwivarno or trivarno.
    Sandro
    Hi Sandro,

    Thank you very much indeed for posting these beautiful blades. Would you please post colse-ups of each blade and explain the pattern. Thank you very much.

    Kind regards

    Manouchehr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Mukai View Post
    A well done pamor information page:

    http://old.blades.free.fr/keris/intr...ilah/pamor.htm

    Greg
    Greg

    Thank you for the information.

    Kind regards

    Manouchehr

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    Hi Manouchehr
    here I enclose another pic of a keris with pamor called 'kulit semangka' that means 'wathermelon skin'.
    Greatings to everyone of this new forum about keris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandro Forgiarini View Post
    Hi Manouchehr
    here I enclose another pic of a keris with pamor called 'kulit semangka' that means 'wathermelon skin'.
    Greatings to everyone of this new forum about keris.
    Sandro
    Thank you very much for sharing Sandro.

    Kind regards

    Manouchehr

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    A very nice one Dr. forgiarini.
    Please forgive my english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Mukai View Post
    A well done pamor information page:

    http://old.blades.free.fr/keris/intr...ilah/pamor.htm

    Greg
    This is probably the best online overview.

    This is also worthwhile to read:
    http://home.pacific.net.sg/~dspf/pamor.html
    http://home.pacific.net.sg/~dspf/pamor2.html

    You can find a rather complete bibliography here:
    http://www.nikhef.nl/~tonvr/keris/references/index.html

    Especially the works by Groneman and Tammens are interesting for your question, as is the "Ensiklopedi Keris" by Bambang Harsrinuksmo.
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    Hi Stanley. Marveillous.
    Is there an inscription on the last one ?
    If yes have you the translation ?
    Please forgive my english.

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    Thank you very much Stanley for sharing these pieces. Could you please identify the name of the patterns?

    Kind regards

    manocuhehr

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    I lost the stat on the first one. I forgot who bought it from me here in SFI, but that person will be able to give you the detail. Meanwhile, here are the stats for the last two:

    Keris 2
    Dhapur: Pendowo Lare/Luk 5 (five waves)
    Pamor: Uler Lulut (snake skin pattern)
    Rangka: Gayaman Yogyakarta (Kayu Trembalo Jawa)
    Blade Length: 13"

    Keris 3
    Dhapur (shape): Luk 9 (nine waves)
    Motif: Telale Gajah Kara Welang (elephant's trunk)
    Pamor (pattern): Beras Wutah Aksara Jawa (rice pattern with Javanese calligraphy)
    Rangka (wood): Gayaman Blek Kopeng
    Blade Length: 14"
    Model: Adopted from Year of Majapahit (1293-1528)
    Purpose/Benefit: To give prosperity and protection for the owner

    Too bad my Javanese is very rusty. I will see if I can find my dictionary somewhere so I can read the inscription on the third piece for you.

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    Hi Stanley. your kerises are wery fine and well dressed even if the scabbard and pendok (Topengan type) are new. This is normal for lot of keris.
    I enclose two pics of a good keris Tanguh Tuban (13th-14th Century) and pamor Melati Sinebar (Jasmin flowers). The blade is thin and with a beatiful sound, as ususual for Tuban blades. Scabbard is recent made with a kind of wood (Kayu) called 'the heaven's column'. Warangka and ukiran (handle) are in Solo style.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley Onggowijaya View Post
    I lost the stat on the first one. I forgot who bought it from me here in SFI, but that person will be able to give you the detail. Meanwhile, here are the stats for the last two:

    Keris 2
    Dhapur: Pendowo Lare/Luk 5 (five waves)
    Pamor: Uler Lulut (snake skin pattern)
    Rangka: Gayaman Yogyakarta (Kayu Trembalo Jawa)
    Blade Length: 13"

    Keris 3
    Dhapur (shape): Luk 9 (nine waves)
    Motif: Telale Gajah Kara Welang (elephant's trunk)
    Pamor (pattern): Beras Wutah Aksara Jawa (rice pattern with Javanese calligraphy)
    Rangka (wood): Gayaman Blek Kopeng
    Blade Length: 14"
    Model: Adopted from Year of Majapahit (1293-1528)
    Purpose/Benefit: To give prosperity and protection for the owner

    Too bad my Javanese is very rusty. I will see if I can find my dictionary somewhere so I can read the inscription on the third piece for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley Onggowijaya View Post
    Too bad my Javanese is very rusty. I will see if I can find my dictionary somewhere so I can read the inscription on the third piece for you.

    Thanks anyway for the efforts Stanley. Very good ones.
    Please forgive my english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandro Forgiarini View Post
    I enclose two pics of a good keris Tanguh Tuban (13th-14th Century) and pamor Melati Sinebar (Jasmin flowers).

    Another excellent one.
    Thanks for sharing, Dr. Forgiarini.
    Please forgive my english.

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    I usually make two trips to the Yogyakarta region annually. On each trip, I usually collect about three to four kerises and bring them back to the States. My collection is growing and I usually share/sell my collection here in SFI Classified. Most of the motif will be tangguh Yogyakarta/Solo. Those pieces I mentioned earlier have been collected by other fellow SFI forumites.

    Here is the one that I currently own. This particular piece took a while to find and by far this is the most precious piece in my collection.

    http://members.cox.net/stan_o/Keris6s.jpg

    It is 13 luk keris with dragon motif and sterling silver finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley Onggowijaya View Post
    I lost the stat on the first one. I forgot who bought it from me here in SFI, but that person will be able to give you the detail. Meanwhile, here are the stats for the last two:

    Keris 2
    Dhapur: Pendowo Lare/Luk 5 (five waves)
    Pamor: Uler Lulut (snake skin pattern)
    Rangka: Gayaman Yogyakarta (Kayu Trembalo Jawa)
    Blade Length: 13"

    Keris 3
    Dhapur (shape): Luk 9 (nine waves)
    Motif: Telale Gajah Kara Welang (elephant's trunk)
    Pamor (pattern): Beras Wutah Aksara Jawa (rice pattern with Javanese calligraphy)
    Rangka (wood): Gayaman Blek Kopeng
    Blade Length: 14"
    Model: Adopted from Year of Majapahit (1293-1528)
    Purpose/Benefit: To give prosperity and protection for the owner

    Too bad my Javanese is very rusty. I will see if I can find my dictionary somewhere so I can read the inscription on the third piece for you.


    Excellent post. Thank you very much for sharing.

    Kind regards

    Manouchehr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandro Forgiarini View Post
    Hi Stanley. your kerises are wery fine and well dressed even if the scabbard and pendok (Topengan type) are new. This is normal for lot of keris.
    I enclose two pics of a good keris Tanguh Tuban (13th-14th Century) and pamor Melati Sinebar (Jasmin flowers). The blade is thin and with a beatiful sound, as ususual for Tuban blades. Scabbard is recent made with a kind of wood (Kayu) called 'the heaven's column'. Warangka and ukiran (handle) are in Solo style.
    Marvellous piece. Thank you very much Sandro for sharing it with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley Onggowijaya View Post
    I usually make two trips to the Yogyakarta region annually. On each trip, I usually collect about three to four kerises and bring them back to the States. My collection is growing and I usually share/sell my collection here in SFI Classified. Most of the motif will be tangguh Yogyakarta/Solo. Those pieces I mentioned earlier have been collected by other fellow SFI forumites.

    Here is the one that I currently own. This particular piece took a while to find and by far this is the most precious piece in my collection.

    http://members.cox.net/stan_o/Keris6s.jpg

    It is 13 luk keris with dragon motif and sterling silver finish.
    Stanley. THis is a real beauty. Thanks for sharing.

    Kind regards

    Manouchehr

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    Those are fantastic patterns on the blades, Dr. Sandro! Thank you for posting them.

    Did you make these? If so, how long did they take to make?

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    Doug,

    The keris patterns shown above by Dr. Sando are antique blades.

    Kind regards

    Manouchehr

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