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Thread: Post the pictures of the antique jians please

  1. #26
    That is a very high quality jian. Usually the "theta" type guards, or at least the ones I have seen on SFI, are not such high quality. There was a previous discussion of these guards found on dao and jian of minority origin, but this one looks pure Han.
    Josh

  2. #27
    I happen to own those twin swords from Oriental Arms...
    And, yes, They're beatiful. I would however consider swapping them for a really good, all original, long, antique jian....

    "set of two short Chinese straight swords Jian. Both blades are of half diamond cross section, 22 inches long, forged from good laminated steel and set with the Seven Stars brass dots and brass inlaid dragons. Horn grips and beautifully engraved brass fittings. Total length 31 inches. No scabbard. "

  3. #28
    Close-ups of the hilts on the set of seven star shuang jian shown previously by me:
    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...duation338.jpg

    These are from a province north of Sichuan near the Tibetan border.

    And another close-up of the blade:
    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...duation342.jpg
    Notice the large folding lines reminiscent of Tibetan construction techniques. Also notice the bi-color stars sometimes found on items with Tibetan influence.

    Another set of shuang jian with welded iron fittings in perhaps a Ming style. The image on the guards may be influenced by Tibetan stylistic elements. It shows a lion with the character "wang" (king) on the forehead and traces of gilding with over painting in red:
    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...duation346.jpg

    The pommels showing lotus blossoms:
    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...duation347.jpg

    Josh

  4. #29
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    Thanks Josh for sharing. Could you post a picture of the whole jian?

    KInd regards

    Manouchehr

  5. #30
    Well unfortunately I don’t have a view of the total shuang jian in my files but I do have all the parts.

    Jian are usually secured by peening over the tang and then putting a hollow peg through the handle. Those pegs are found at certain spots that I suspect correspond to harmonics from the vibrations that run from the blade into the hilt. In this case the shuang jian have been riveted together. The rivets fall on all of the spots where pegs and other attachment points are found.

    I think that is the original mill scale on the inside of the handle, which would most likely put this set of jian as late Qing.

    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...duation343.jpg

    You can see both the sanmai construction and the effects of differential heat treatment at the edges.

    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...duation345.jpg

    I think these tips have been reshaped a bit, but I am not sure how much. The triangular tip matches the general Ming style of the fittings. However, they clearly are no longer symmetrical. The Ming style in a late Qing piece makes me wonder if it had anything to do with one of the many anti Qing rebellions. These swords have certainly seen some action.

    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...duation344.jpg

    Josh

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