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    Hello, please help ID this sword

    Hello,



    Need help identifying this long jian. I think it to be a royal court sword. Singnature states qing dynasty, under emperor chang lun. (what ive been told) Has a very nice darkened blade with gold and silver inlays. For an old sword blade is in a really good condition hmmm.... Ivory handle. wood scabbard. Wanted to see if this is a tourist replica or maybe a good court jian.
    From what I know about it it was brought back by a warvet from England in the early 50's

    Thank you in advance for any information
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    It is a vintage made for tourists sword. Knowledgable colectors are not usually interested, but they go for crazy prices on eBay.
    Josh

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    I've actually seen an antique example of this type of sword in a new book on Chinese swords and knives called Zhong Guo Dao Jian.. or... Chinese swords and knives... :P

    Anyways, it looked pretty much the same.. With same type of motifs going down the entire length of the blade..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth, H. View Post
    I've actually seen an antique example of this type of sword in a new book on Chinese swords and knives called Zhong Guo Dao Jian.. or... Chinese swords and knives... :P

    Anyways, it looked pretty much the same.. With same type of motifs going down the entire length of the blade..

    Best regards, Kenneth A.H.
    Yes, absolutely, the one posted is an antique, or vintage as I posted implying it is old, but certainly not as old as the Qianlong markings would imply. However, it was made for show at the time with poor steel, and so is not particularly valuable to the cognoscenti.
    Josh

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    Hi Aleksey,

    Welcome to SFI. Sorry I have been extremely busy. A jian resmbling your sword can be seen on page in a book on Chinese swords written by Alex Huangfu, pages 208-209.

    Also the book Swords and Hilt Weapons shows a similar example, please check page 183.

    Kind regards
    Manouchehr

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    But in Swords and Hilt Weapons, the sword is incorrectly identified as actually coming from the Qianlong period (ending 1790), as apposed to the true date circa 1900.
    Josh

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    Note: the fitting that should be at the mouth of the scabbard is caught on the guard and should be moved back to the scabbard.
    Josh

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    Thank you for all your help

    Thank you for all your help and advice.
    THroat peice of the scabbard was caught in the guard...thank you on that Josh.

    Alex

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