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    Incredible French cuirassier sword!

    Compare this ebay description of a "100% original" sword that "has been in a private collection for 80 years":

    "Rare 1813 French Sword. I have this on commission for an estate sale. The estaminate value is more than $3000.00. The reserve on this sword is well below that amount. As you can see from the photos, it is 100% all original, very rare in this shape! The leather in the handle has dried out some but is 100% intact. This sword has been in a private collection for close to 80 years, and was the highlight of the collection. ********************************************* Email dean@pcu.net fo additional hi res scans ********************************************* Cuirassier Trooper's Sword. Any scholar of Napoleon's army would be impressed at the weight and presence of this sizable sword with its 37 1/2" blade. This four bar guarded hilt comes with a leather and wire wrapped grip. In addition the back of the blade is etched the date and what arsenal is was made for: "Manufacture Imperial du Klingenthal Octobre 1813". Again with attention to detail, there is (a) the armoury 1st Class inspector's mark for 1812 (laurelled "B" for Joseph Bisch); (b) the proofer's marking ( "L" for Francois Louis Lobstein); and (c) rack numbers. The last element is particularly interesting because every sword has a different number therefore your sword will not be like any other. Comes complete with two-ringed original steel scabbard. There is even a Bisch' s "B" stamped on the top of the mouth of the scabbard. Incredible! Will require payment by certified check, bank check or money orders. Because this is an estate sales, sorry, all sales are final. Please include $25 for shipping & insurance. "

    with this description of a reproduction French cuirassier sword from the web-site of The Discriminating General: :

    "Cuirassier Trooper's Sword. Any scholar of Napoleon's army would be impressed at the weight and presence of this sizable sword with its 37 1/2" blade. This hilt comes with a leather and wire wrapped grip. The grip comes in both brown and black leather (both were used - your choice to which one you would like).

    The blade is high carbon spring steel and well fulled like that of the originals. In addition the back of the blade is etched the date and what arsenal is was made for: "Manufacture Imperial du Klingenthal Octobre 1813". Again with attention to detail, there is (a) the armoury 1st Class inspector's mark for 1812 (laurelled "B" for Joseph Bisch); (b) the proofer's marking ( "L" for Francois Louis Lobstein); and (c) rack numbers.

    The last element is particularly interesting because every sword has a different number therefore your sword will not be like any other. Comes complete with two-ringed steel scabbard. There is even a Bisch' s "B" stamped on the top of the mouth of the scabbard. Incredible! "

    And draw your own conclusions!!!!

    Richard.

    PS Incidentally, the wreathed B on an 1813 sword would be Jean-Georges BICK, and not Joseph BISCH.

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    Richard, is this truly magnificent sword still up at eBay? Just to have a look for curiosity's sake... and have fun of it!

    Someone trying to pass a repro should at least do the homework and rewrite a 'suitable' description, prior to posting... but cut-and-paste is easier!

    Regards,
    Juan
    SI, SI
    NO, NON

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    Juan,

    Yes it is located at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...718826356&rd=1

    However, at that price it doesn't look likely to sell in a hurry!

    Richard.

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    I've been emailing this one since I saw this post trying to nail down the facts. Happy to say that he has closed his auction because of an error in the listing.

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