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    Advice please!

    Advice please!

    I am new here and so am not familiar with the ettiquette of this forum, so my apologies if this post is inappropriate here. I have been practising Japanese Martial Arts for the last 25 years and have recently renewed my interest in Japanese swords/swordsmanship. I have been offered a sword which I can buy for $400. I would be very grateful if someone could give me an expert opinion on the following photos


    Thanks in advance

    Simon Ford-Powell
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    Your best bet would be to see if you can get a more detailed picture of the nakago (tang) and post it in the nihon-to forums. They should be able to give you an idea of what its worth.

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    The forum rules state that we can't appraise things, but... IMO, $400 is too little for a quality shinken.
    Lawyer in training

    Both sides deserves an advocate.

    I reserve the right to change my opinion upon the furnishing of new evidence.

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    Originally posted by Joey Stidd
    Your best bet would be to see if you can get a more detailed picture of the nakago (tang) and post it in the nihon-to forums. They should be able to give you an idea of what its worth.

    Thanks for that advice, Joey
    Regards

    Simon

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    sorry if this is stating the obvious but isnt that a ww2 japanese katana ?

    the fittings look they are from ww2 just look at the tsuba.

    and is there a makers name on the tang?

    i dont know that much about prices but if its a good quality ww2 piece and if you can get the guy to get the price down its not a bad deal.

    but i agree ask for some clearer pictures of the tang and blade.

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    the sword was given to an American Gi by a Japanese officer at the end of the war, it has a certificate to say that it is 18th century (not seen this yet) so it may have been remounted. I don't really care what it is, I care more whether it is a reasonable value for what it is. The seller claims that it had been valued at $750.

    Thanks for the reply
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    blade

    pic o the blade
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    Mr. Powell:
    From the pics the blade looks to be Japanese made and not a
    chinese copy. But some questions- Does the tempered edge
    run the length of the blade and around the point ? Are there chips or cracks thru the edge ? Are there blisters , carbon pockets or openings in the surface of the steel ? Is she bent ?
    The saya appears to be WWII leather covered wood a good
    thing if it needs to be refinished. Does the tsukka fit tightly? If
    not you will need to have a new one made up.
    As said the blade looks legit to me but if I were considering it
    for use in Iai-do or tameshi-giri I would have it looked over by
    the dojo's sensei or a senior member of one of the UK's sword
    clubs.
    Hope this helps.
    Nathan

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    Pawal Nowak

    Hi Simon, is this a Pavl Nowak offering? I ask because the pics look like an offering from this well known scammer. WWII, bring back, 18th century and $400 all the same discriptions. Do a search here for info first.
    Long Life

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    Hi Simon,
    As you are in Leicester,you should take a look at the stuff at
    www.michaeldlong.net
    Some nice japanese swords there and not an hour away from you,
    Also the old brigade in Northampton, the chap had two of these in at last visit,phone numbers in the phone book,you have to call as its appointment only,also probably an hour away,
    There is another dealer in Stamford but i cant remember the details,mainly an ebay seller,but one of the better ones,
    So far the ones of these i have seen run from £250-up,
    But on site inspection and good sales back up may warrant an extra few pounds,
    As Joe has said if this message came from Pawel T nowak
    Keep your money in your pocket chap,forewarned is forearmed so to speak,
    Hope this helps,
    Lee.

    Edited for name spelling,
    Last edited by Lee O.; 06-26-2004 at 06:47 AM.

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    Guess what

    Gentlemen, many, many thanks - yes it is from Pawel Nowak. You have saved me much anguish and I am very grateful to you!

    what is his scam anyway?

    Again, many thanks for the warning!!
    Last edited by Simon Ford-Powell; 06-26-2004 at 09:22 AM.
    Regards

    Simon

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    Pawel Norwak has been getting email addresses from forum databases and soliciting dozens and dozens of people with the same or similar offer, you would save yourself a lot of grief if you did not purchase anything from him. besides, $400 is awful cheap. best of luck getting your hands on a sword though!

    best regards,
    steve

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    I think someone offering to sell you a sword at $400 they have had valued at $750 should ring an alarm bell or two!
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    Danger! Pawel Nowak spam/scam is back!

    Just recieved this email from him:

    Hi !

    I have two japanese swords (katana and tanto) with the blade from XVIII and XIX century and I would like to sell them for the reasonable price (600US$). If you think you could have an interest, let me know.

    Regards.

    Shipwrecks.Research271275@yahoo.com

    I'm not sure if there is an ongoing thread chronicling this scam artist or not, but it seems he has re-surfaced. I threatened him legally in my reply email, but be warned!

    Also posted in the nihonto area:
    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...ht=pawel+nowak

    An in-depth thread about Pawel Nowak's history of fraud:
    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...ht=pawel+nowak
    - What really scares the heck out of me is that stupid people are out-breeding the smart ones.

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    Thanks Matt,

    This is/was another active email associated with the usename banned here in 2004

    Goldenwrecks@hotmail.com.

    If any PM or email that appears to come through SFI to you (or anyone) that is soliciting sales and the seller is unknown to you, please do forward contact information to myself, the contact links at http://swordforum.com or any of the other moderators.

    If someone is posting here and you have a user profile link here for them in regard to spamming or unsolicited sales, let us know and include a link to the profile page. These can also be used as an alert by clicking the little green button by a username. That will send an email to all moderators and administrators.

    Thanks again for the heads up

    Glen

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    I think the fact that he has laid low for a while, then has tried the exact same scheme is a true testament to his intelligence (lack thereof).

    I just hope no-one buys into his story. I'd also like to know how he gets our email addresses...
    - What really scares the heck out of me is that stupid people are out-breeding the smart ones.

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    Hi Matt,

    There had been some security issues on the previous server and vb setup. As far as I knw, there should be no way to simply fetch another's email here unless it has been published (mine is a vb card in my profile). Consider carefully where else one may have used a similar username on a sword topic venue.

    I know I never got any for some years and then finally did (back in the day). I had also received one other solicitation for business propositions through my open profile information at myArmoury. Nathan (over there) had just the other day posted a sticky in off topic there. Is your mail addy in any way associated with other venues such as the profile website you offer? Email search tools for real or nicknames can be found at large on the net as well.

    Thanks again for the heads up. It may seem attractive to some but email scamming has been a fact of life for a long time. The first and very simplest precaution is simply ignoring unsolicited email entirely. Bank scams, Paypal scams, there are usually pretty clear indications of false mail. This approach listed on the forums here is a little trickier and more easily fooled into further contact at all with such an email. Put them in a spam filter and alert, then carry on as usual. The IP resolution tools to reach just about anyone are quite easy to utilize, if someone wants to.

    Simply clicking on a benign looking site can grab you via a cookie and archive your ip for determining email addies down the line. I do edit my cookie lists quite often, rather than block a good many I could.

    1984 was a quarter of a century ago.

    Be safe and well

    Glen

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    I have finally been blessed by yet another addy

    shipwrecks.research271275@gmail.com

    I would suggest folk receivibg such either just ignore them, or report them as spam. Respsonding to any sender simply means you acknowledge your mail address as valid and will be added to at least that sender as valid, often with being added to yet more lists. I had probably filtered out and deleted the yahoo addy from him, as I will this gmail sent address from him.

    Glen

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    Hey all, found this old post about pawel nowak,,,
    Appears he or someone is running this scam again. I received an email today from someone claiming to be him and selling the same 2 swords he has been selling since 2004.
    So I think it is time to bring this back to the light, don't want anyone taken advantage of...

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    You may have also received an admistrative email from the Bugei board today regarding this. It is not new or forgotten news and is actually a topic posted now in a couple of subforums here. One, above the list here and in the General Announcements subforum
    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=120

    Remember to always check back in time and not just the forum default cut-off view. Here is the thread that was a sticky post here in the General forum back in July, the month after you registered. It is now in the General Announcements area and not a sticky post.
    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96795

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The following is an e-mail sent to you by an administrator of "Sword Forum
    Bugei". If this message is spam, contains abusive or other comments you
    find offensive please contact the webmaster of the board at the following
    address:

    sfbadmin@dragomyr.org

    Include this full e-mail (particularly the headers).

    Message sent to you follows:
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    On 31 December 2009, a new member registered with the username
    "Luytjens1939" and the email “luytjens1939@gmail.com” from IP address
    194.63.135.161 which belongs to a company called FORweb or 4web in Poland.
    Upon looking at the profile, seeing that the prospective member’s full name
    was listed as "Verner Luytjens" and feeling generous that day (it was New
    Year’s Eve, after all) I decided to alter the username to "Verner Luytjens"
    and activate the account.

    Well, I feel I must apologize to you all and give everyone a heads-up
    because today, I have received an email from that very same email account
    that reads:

    Hello:

    I am a private collector and I have 2 japanese swords (katana and
    tanto) with the blade from
    XVIII century. I would like to sell them for the reasonable price
    (700US$ and 450US$). If you
    could have an interest, please write directly to:
    luytjens1939@gmail.com

    All the best.
    Pawel Nowak
    luytjens1939@gmail.com

    Now, for those of you who don’t know, Pawel Nowak has a long standing
    history of being a con artist and thief and the “individual” may well be a
    front for a group of people working together. For further reading on the
    topic feel free to do a google search or try the following for starters:

    http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26551
    http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6142
    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96794
    http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... p?t=311468

    Being who I am, I, of course, responded ...

    Hello

    You are a thief with a long running history of conning people out of
    money and stealing their
    swords. Do not contact me again.

    Likewise, you have been banned from Bugei Sword Forum for:

    1) lying to me during registration
    2) being who you are

    Dimytri Komanatov

    So I am making a General Announcements post and sending a flash email to
    let everyone know that this guy is at it again and to let everyone know to
    expect him to prowl through your inboxes. Incidentally, there are two
    things to keep in mind: 1) I’ve already banned him so don’t expect to see
    any posts here about this and 2) the memberlist is not visible to
    non-members so his access to your emails via the memberlist is a lapse on
    my part. I apologize.

    On the other hand, receiving an email solicitation from Pawel Nowak– as
    annoying as it is – is almost a right of passage at this point.


    --
    Thanks ...
    The Sword Forum Bugei Administration

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    As the SFI profile fields have been disabled for the time being and this user has not appeared as registered here lately, chances are your email was on a list somewhere else.

    Thanks for your considerations and understand spam is just that, spam. If someone has emailed you and you don't know them, nor did you solicit that mail, it is spam. Delete it after forwarding it to your IP service. Do not respond to these spam emails as you may well simply be spreading the disease.

    Be Well

    Glen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Ford-Powell View Post
    Advice please!

    I am new here and so am not familiar with the ettiquette of this forum, so my apologies if this post is inappropriate here. I have been practising Japanese Martial Arts for the last 25 years and have recently renewed my interest in Japanese swords/swordsmanship. I have been offered a sword which I can buy for $400. I would be very grateful if someone could give me an expert opinion on the following photos


    Thanks in advance

    Simon Ford-Powell
    Simon,
    Welcome to the world of sword collection. It said that it's almost a rite of passage at this point to get an email from Pawel....
    I like swords.

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    Stolen (with permission) from the Bugei Forum.

    Dave P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Ellis View Post
    Simon,
    Welcome to the world of sword collection. It said that it's almost a rite of passage at this point to get an email from Pawel....
    Jeff, Simon posted this thread in 2004. Just as thread necromacy is a rite of passage but something to consider in responses.

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    Just got the same e-mail a few minutes ago. Got to watch it out there. Scammers are everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David W Price View Post

    Stolen (with permission) from the Bugei Forum.

    Dave P
    OMFG! I'd never seen that before and almost soiled myself laughing.
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    And asks no omen but his country’s cause."

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