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    "Dog River" Swords

    Hi,
    Could some kind sole explain please what is meant when US civil war swords are described as "dog river". Is it a specific style or just swords produced in a geographical area?

    Not being a native of the US and trying to learn more about US civil war swords I would love to have this clarified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Cloke View Post
    Hi,
    Could some kind sole explain please what is meant when US civil war swords are described as "dog river". Is it a specific style or just swords produced in a geographical area?

    Not being a native of the US and trying to learn more about US civil war swords I would love to have this clarified.
    Good question on a strange local idiom Mark.

    The term was coined by William Albaugh when he wrote his book on Confederate swords. He found a receipt or reference for a sword that was made at the "Dog River" sword manufactory and had no idea where that establishment might have been located. So... (wait for it) he then called all CS swords by unknown makers as being "Dog River" type swords. Collectors have called them that ever since thus giving a name to the unknowable.

    Strange but true.

    George
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    Other than being Confederation swords of unknown origin; do those "dog river" swords have any common characteristics?
    "The relationship between West(Occident) and East(Orient) is indeed an example of a relationship of power and domination. Orientalism is thus a style of thought based upon an ontological and epistemological distinction made between the Orient and the Occident. It is a Western style of dominating, restructuring and building hegemony over the Orient.İt is an accepted grid for filtering through the Orient into Western consciousness, into the general culture."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sancar Ozer View Post
    Other than being Confederation swords of unknown origin; do those "dog river" swords have any common characteristics?
    No manufacturing traits in common. The only thing they have in common is that they are unknown. It is even unknown where the Dog River Sword Manufactory was or what their products looked like as no CS swords with this marking have ever been found. So, collectors would not even know a legitimate Dog River sword if they were to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Wheeler View Post
    No manufacturing traits in common. The only thing they have in common is that they are unknown. It is even unknown where the Dog River Sword Manufactory was or what their products looked like as no CS swords with this marking have ever been found. So, collectors would not even know a legitimate Dog River sword if they were to see it.
    Thanks for the clarification George. I had always wondered.

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