Re: J. Christoph Amberger read this post.



 Author: Rob Lovett November 1, 2000 at 04:56:40 

 
In reply to: Re: J. Christoph Amberger read this post. posted by Tim Sheetz on November 1, 2000 at 04:36:52

    Yeah, I agree with you here. If you train for a sport you are going to be damn good in that sport, and you should also be proud of that achievement at what ever level that you end up competing for, if you are having fun doing this, then surely thisis the main point.

However, and I think that I am agreeing with you here, comparing sport fencing with historical martial arts, feels a bit like comparing an apple and an orange. Sure they are both fruit and roughly round, but the similarity ends there and you find out that they are really two different things.

Sport/Modern fencing seems to be geared towards gaining the point against your opponent where as historical martial arts is geared towards killing and maiming your opponent. These two different aims and goals really change the focus of both types of fencing, and I suppose in essence this is what we are really talking about - focus and mental attitude.

I think I am starting to ramble now and get confused as to what the point I am trying to make is - oh yes. Hey, let's not argue about apples and oranges, instead lets see the benefits of both and celebrate the advantages that both of these fruits can give us, as well as the disadvantages.

"Now, even though there are lessons that a combative sport can teach, it isn’t training for combat. Sure, you’re going to have a better sense of point awareness if you’ve spent time with epee. Sure, you’re going to have faster feet if you’ve fenced foil. Sure you’re going to have good reflexes….... You get my point. But those benefits don’t mean you’ve “trained for combat” (real or simulated)."

I disagree here. I feel that you will get the same awareness from historical martial arts, if you don't then I think you are not doing very well.

   
 
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