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    So reasonable to assume that anything with the...

    So reasonable to assume that anything with the lion, navy or not is pre 1858?
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    EIC Navy question

    Hi all,

    Is there a definitive date when the use of the EIC lion on navy blade/hilts stopped. Did the Indian Navy continue to use this after the HEIC was defunkt?

    I'm asking in relation to an...
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    Of course, I had forgotten about Gill. I'm less...

    Of course, I had forgotten about Gill. I'm less familiar with pre Victorian trade.
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    Thanks Mike, I was really surprised and I've...

    Thanks Mike, I was really surprised and I've found many more women in the UK census records as military outfitters.

    I had previously thought of the trade as a male dominated business similar to...
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    Aaaaand. In 1885 Hobson & Sons have a further...

    Aaaaand.

    In 1885 Hobson & Sons have a further change of address but not a change of premises!

    In that year Little Windmill Street was renamed Lexington Street after Baron Lexington. Under the...
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    Hobson & Son

    Many will be familiar with the name Hobson & Son featuring on British military swords.

    But, did you know that the Hobson behind Hobson & Sons was actually Mrs Sarah Hobson, a widow who carried on...
  7. Found this one on an old Swedish auction, judging...

    Found this one on an old Swedish auction, judging by the surrounding numbers i'm guessing 1896/97 (amended - not 1904)

    I'm struggling to make out the details from the image.
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  8. Hi, I've been doing a bit of work on this,...

    Hi, I've been doing a bit of work on this, gathering data on all numbered Pillins I can find whether named or not although most have something to help date them.

    I've got a spreadsheet, not sure...
  9. Thread: Rehilts

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    Hi Will, it's not mine, just an example that got...

    Hi Will, it's not mine, just an example that got me thinking.
    It's actually a Pillin with a 45 blade.

    I just wondered if anyone had any examples of multiple re-hilts. The trouble is of course...
  10. Thread: Rehilts

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    Rehilts

    Hi all,

    Just looking at a sword whose officer began in the infantry in 1890, and ended his career commanding the Gurkha rifles.

    So his sword hilt will very likely have went 1822, 1895/97...
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    Hi Kev, I'm looking for something pretty close,...

    Hi Kev, I'm looking for something pretty close, I'd like to keep my project historically correct. Let me know if you have something like it.
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    Nothing from those images, just interested in...

    Nothing from those images, just interested in seeing the feint etching opposite the proof disc.

    In my opinion that hilt is bent. The outer bars appear squashed into contact with the middle bars.
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    Lol, "Never" is never NEVER in sword collecting...

    Lol, "Never" is never NEVER in sword collecting though!

    This is at least the 5th example of a sword I've seen with a Mole disc using the triangles. I think I've read on another thread that Mole...
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    Thanks Ben, does it say anything about a change...

    Thanks Ben, does it say anything about a change from Mole's sunburst to interlocking triangles?
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    Yes Will, yours is the archetypal Mole starburst...

    Yes Will, yours is the archetypal Mole starburst disc with typical Mole etching for the name but atypical interlocked triangles for a Mole proof surround!

    I've seen another 1895 pattern mole...
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    That long ricasso though... I've always thought...

    That long ricasso though... I've always thought of these as imports.

    I'd be interested in seeing a confirmed Mole blade using this disc. There are several very similar but distinct 'proof between...
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    I've know of 3 definite examples of this disc....

    I've know of 3 definite examples of this disc. None of which have an identifiable retailer/manufacturers name.

    2 of them have a figure of 8 design etched across the blade. Some have suggested it...
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    I don't think there is any reason to doubt that...

    I don't think there is any reason to doubt that it is a British officer's sword supplied by an outfitter who bought their blades from a manufacturer who simply did not use proof discs. The addition...
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    Hi John,

    I was aware of ix.1413 but it's not a patent hilt, very beautiful though it is, I don't have access to the article unfortunately but would certainly be interested.

    ix.704 is perhaps...
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    Just came across this paragraph in "Commando: A...

    Just came across this paragraph in "Commando: A Boer journal of the Boer War" by Deneys Reitz.

    It's not really relevant to my original post which was referring to officers in the Boer War but I...
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    The etching is very poor, the proof disc is similar to a repro discussed in the thread below, I would bet its not original but more photos should help.
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    Stop the press!!! On further reading it is...

    Stop the press!!!

    On further reading it is said that "Truscott knew Edward VII, Catherine and William Booth, and Winston Churchill."
    the latter of whom is associated with 21st Lancers.
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    Additional images

    Additional images
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    I have revised my research into this sword due to...

    I have revised my research into this sword due to nagging doubts about the initials.

    Having seen more examples I came to doubt that the initials were FWJ and now believe that they are FWT. (as...
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    Congratulations! So that means 103631 matches...

    Congratulations!

    So that means 103631 matches a commission date of June 1904. Should help for future Pillin research.
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