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    Going through some old threads and I came across...

    Going through some old threads and I came across this one.

    I am confident that this Vietnamese guom is from the 19th C. The cracked hilt is caused by expansion of the wood over time, probably...
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    These dha are of Lao manufacture and date from...

    These dha are of Lao manufacture and date from the late 20th C. They are made in the style of much earlier daab from Laos, and there are a few of these recently made ones around that come up on...
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    Whether the sole cause or one of many, my...

    Whether the sole cause or one of many, my comments about causality still hold. If one of many, then it becomes even more difficult to sort out what is causal and what is simply a correlate. Testable...
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    I'm coming to this thread a little late but...

    I'm coming to this thread a little late but enjoyed the discussion above.

    JT has made some excellent points about the NE Frontier of India and the Burmese during the late 18th and early 19th C. ...
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    No criticism of you or your collector friend...

    No criticism of you or your collector friend implied. Many, many Moro items are ascribed high status -- "owned by a datu" being the most common attribution. And some probably were. But many were not...
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    Hi Carlo: Interesting kris. It seems to be all...

    Hi Carlo:

    Interesting kris. It seems to be all Maranao work which makes me a little doubtful about its attribution to a Sultan. The dominant sultanates were Sulu and Brunei, with realtively minor...
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    Ruel: I believe you have mistaken an...

    Ruel:

    I believe you have mistaken an association with causality -- a fundamental issue in epidemiology. Associations are frequently misleading and eventually shown not to be causal relationships...
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    Mark: I think that you have made a compelling...

    Mark:

    I think that you have made a compelling argument by using an example where the "fashion" is codified rigidly through the sumptuary laws. In such a system, everyone should understand the...
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    Ruel: I've read through several lengthy...

    Ruel:

    I've read through several lengthy comments, replies to those comments, and replies to the replies, etc. It's taken a while to sift through the various ideas, and there are at least a half...
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    I agree with Jose. Better pctures of the pommel...

    I agree with Jose. Better pctures of the pommel and the gangya area of the blade immediately adjacent to the handle, where the intricate metal filework occurs, would be very helpful.

    At first...
  11. Thread: Hello All,

    by Ian G
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    Issara: Thanks so much for the detailed...

    Issara:

    Thanks so much for the detailed response. I can't begin to tell you how much help you and your contacts have been in providing such clear information about the Lanna and central Thai...
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    Thanks Issara. I will post some close up pictures...

    Thanks Issara. I will post some close up pictures when the sword arrives.

    Regards,

    Ian.
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    Mark: It is interesting that the site you...

    Mark:

    It is interesting that the site you mention provides an explanation for the presence of the kris on the Siamese Coat of Arms developed by Chulalongkorn, 18531910, king of Siam (18681910)....
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    Issara: I believe the text you quoted was...

    Issara:

    I believe the text you quoted was taken from this site: http://old.blades.free.fr/utilities/siam.htm

    The preamble to your quote is also interesting. The site's author notes:

    "The...
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    by Ian G
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    A question for S.Issara

    I have recently liberated this fine sword with ivory hilt from my good friend Mark Bowditch and it seems to have some of the features you describe above for darb attributable to the Lanna. Would you...
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    I wonder if Muslims were used deliberately as...

    I wonder if Muslims were used deliberately as emissaries by the Siamese rulers. This would make some sense when traveling through Islamic countries on the "short route" to Europe. It may be that...
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    Thanks Ruel. Yes, murals probably do hold some...

    Thanks Ruel.

    Yes, murals probably do hold some important clues. Mark has discovered a small number of useful examples from art work, including murals, that have enlightened our understanding....
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    Re: The danger of "a priori" dating

    Mark touches on a key point that may well extend beyond the swords of mainland SE Asia. Lineage of sword styles has, for the most part, been reasonably well described in Europe, but documentation for...
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    by Ian G
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    Excellent information

    I want to thank S. Issara for his clear and helpful information about the markings and styles of Lanna dahb. This is the type of specific data that many of us have been looking for in trying to...
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    Rick S is correct about the origin of your sword....

    Rick S is correct about the origin of your sword. It does come from Indonesia and the town of Tjikeroeh in Western Java. The style is heavily influenced by the Dutch Colonial presence, hence the...
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    I would just like to add my enthusiasm and...

    I would just like to add my enthusiasm and support for this effort.

    I had the opportunity to work with the organizers and, as Mark indicated above, there were a lot of decisions made in trying to...
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    Recently made Spanish colonial dagger, most...

    Recently made Spanish colonial dagger, most likely Mexican.

    The blade style and hilt are found in several former Spanish colonies (e.g., Philippines, Mexico), but the leatherwork is Central or...
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    The hilt on this one is Thai in manufacture --...

    The hilt on this one is Thai in manufacture -- late 20th C. The blade shape is unfamiliar to me for a Thai sword. I think it's a marriage of unrelated parts.

    Ian
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    Robert: It is probably laminated steel, which...

    Robert:

    It is probably laminated steel, which a polish and etching would bring out. If you don't like the etch you can always polish it back and oil it.

    Ian.
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    Thanks Robert. Interesting that the blade is...

    Thanks Robert. Interesting that the blade is symmetrical, with a median ridge on each side.

    I do not know a specific name for this type of knife. Most likely it was referred to as a punal or daga....
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