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Thread: Messer fencing vids: Bill Grandy, Jake Norwood, Roland Warzecha

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    Messer fencing vids: Bill Grandy, Jake Norwood, Roland Warzecha

    At WMAW 2011, Roland Warzecha, Jake Norwood and I did a little bit of fencing with the messer, and Tim Hall recorded some of it (some of it wasn't recorded, and some of the recording was corrupted, unfortunately). The footage sat around forgotten for awhile, but Tim remembered he had it and gave me a copy. I decided to put it up on YouTube with some slow-motion replays and commentary (mostly for my own analysis and betterment, but also to help clarify actions to people who weren't there).

    Jake and Roland are fantastic fencers. I'd bouted a little bit with Jake before, so I already knew he was quite the swordsman, but this was the first time Roland and I had crossed blades. He and I started out initially with some "slow motion" fencing with sword and buckler for the sake of technique training (and if you haven't seen Roland fence sword and buckler, it's poetry in motion at any speed). When Jake came along, we switched to messer, and that's what you see in these vids.

    I'm quite happy with these bouts because Jake and Roland possess a high technical proficiency where one has to really understand fühlen, distance and timing in order to fence against them. Rushing in and hoping to get the first hit doesn't work with these guys. There are some really great examples duplieren, mutieren, and general winding goodness.

    Jake and I (and the video evidence that Jake pulled off plate 60 from Codex Wallerstein):
    http://youtu.be/aZCeI5t3F-w

    Roland and I (this is missing the most footage of them all):
    http://youtu.be/XfUG97lYkEA

    Roland and Jake:
    http://youtu.be/FkQO0kT4SZA
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    There's some really lovely stuff in all three encounters. Thanks for posting this Bill, and my compliments to you all!

    Yours,

    Christian
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    There's some really lovely stuff in all three encounters. Thanks for posting this Bill, and my compliments to you all!
    +1
    Adam Roylance
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    just had to post this to our facebook page as well...
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    Beautiful fencing

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    Keyn Fechten lern.

  6. Very impressive. Some of the most technical bouting I've seen on video.
    "Am fear a thug buaidh air fhein, thug e buaidh air namhaid."

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    Really great video - and the commentary is well done. Well-worth the wait, Bill!
    Greg Mele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post
    Very impressive. Some of the most technical bouting I've seen on video.
    That is a really big compliment.
    Thank you.

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